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Thanks for the info.  The description on Amazon looks pretty good.

Chuck Church 
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fabrice Bobes" <study@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Chuck Church'" <ccie8776@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: Hello


> Simon mentioned the Network Security Principles & Practices book from
> Saadat Malik. This book is awesome and it's a good place to start. Lots
> of examples.
> 
> Fabrice
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Chuck Church
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: Simon Hamilton-Wilkes; 'Brian T. Albert'; 'Security'
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
> Simon,
> 
>     I've heard from a bunch of R&S guys that the Security lab has a lot
> of
> overlap with the R&S exam.  Since the R&S is still kind of fresh in my
> head,
> I figure this is a good time.  Those guys you know who failed security,
> have
> they attempted and/or passed the R&S, or were they new to the lab?  I
> know I
> got my butt handed to me my first attempt, just didn't know what to
> study.
> Are there any good Security practice lab books, like the Solie book for
> the
> R&S?
> 
> Chuck Church
> CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Hamilton-Wilkes" <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Brian T. Albert'" <brian.albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Chuck
> Church'"
> <ccie8776@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Security'" <security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:26 PM
> Subject: RE: Hello
> 
> 
> > I'm another R&S pursuing Security.
> >
> > I works with PIX's, ACS server, and VPN concentrators alot, though
> rarely
> > come across the IDS hardware - Snort is more powerful than anything
> Cisco
> > have.  Though I am planning to buy the 6500 IDS blade when the new
> version
> > finally comes out - I'm using the PIX blades so have 24 separate DMZ
> > segments - way too many for conventional probes.
> >
> > I've worked with Checkpoint a fair bit and did the CCSE, I also used
> > Gauntlet firewall, though haven't seen it for a while - it was soooo
> slow.
> >
> > I busy reading Network Security Principles & Practices which is a very
> good
> > book on PIX and FW IOS and IPSEC.
> >
> > I don't expect to get to the lab 'till Q3 03 so I'm not worrying about
> that
> > yet - the couple of people (both Cisco SE's) who have taken it (and
> failed),
> > both had issues with the R&S content rather than the security side.
> >
> > Anybody in LA on here ?
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > Brian T. Albert
> > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 8:34 AM
> > To: Chuck Church; Security
> > Subject: RE: Hello
> >
> >
> > Hi Chuck,
> >
> > I am also a R/S guy and will pursue a Security CCIE. Right now I am
> going
> > about it informally by reading the Cisco Security books and whatever I
> can
> > find on Cisco's web site. I am using my R/S lab at home and building
> my
> own
> > labs, IPSec tunnels, Pix, ACS, etc. Eventually I will look at
> purchasing
> > some lab scenarios, maybe from Hello Computers. What do you think your
> > approach will be? If there are any guys in Chicago who would like to
> study
> > together for CCIE Security, contact me offline.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Brian T. Albert
> > CCIE #9682
> > brian.albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > Chuck Church
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:17 PM
> > To: Security
> > Subject: Hello
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> >     I just thought I'd introduce myself.  I'm thinking pretty hard
> about
> > going for the CCIE Security.  My current CCIE is R&S.  Haven't seen
> any
> > messages since I joined yesterday, just wondering if there's many
> people
> on
> > this list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chuck Church
> > CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE