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Simon mentioned the Network Security Principles & Practices book from
Saadat Malik. This book is awesome and it's a good place to start. Lots
of examples.

Fabrice

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Chuck Church
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:43 AM
To: Simon Hamilton-Wilkes; 'Brian T. Albert'; 'Security'
Subject: Re: Hello

Simon,

    I've heard from a bunch of R&S guys that the Security lab has a lot
of
overlap with the R&S exam.  Since the R&S is still kind of fresh in my
head,
I figure this is a good time.  Those guys you know who failed security,
have
they attempted and/or passed the R&S, or were they new to the lab?  I
know I
got my butt handed to me my first attempt, just didn't know what to
study.
Are there any good Security practice lab books, like the Solie book for
the
R&S?

Chuck Church
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE


----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Hamilton-Wilkes" <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Brian T. Albert'" <brian.albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Chuck
Church'"
<ccie8776@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Security'" <security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:26 PM
Subject: RE: Hello


> I'm another R&S pursuing Security.
>
> I works with PIX's, ACS server, and VPN concentrators alot, though
rarely
> come across the IDS hardware - Snort is more powerful than anything
Cisco
> have.  Though I am planning to buy the 6500 IDS blade when the new
version
> finally comes out - I'm using the PIX blades so have 24 separate DMZ
> segments - way too many for conventional probes.
>
> I've worked with Checkpoint a fair bit and did the CCSE, I also used
> Gauntlet firewall, though haven't seen it for a while - it was soooo
slow.
>
> I busy reading Network Security Principles & Practices which is a very
good
> book on PIX and FW IOS and IPSEC.
>
> I don't expect to get to the lab 'till Q3 03 so I'm not worrying about
that
> yet - the couple of people (both Cisco SE's) who have taken it (and
failed),
> both had issues with the R&S content rather than the security side.
>
> Anybody in LA on here ?
>
> Simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> Brian T. Albert
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 8:34 AM
> To: Chuck Church; Security
> Subject: RE: Hello
>
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I am also a R/S guy and will pursue a Security CCIE. Right now I am
going
> about it informally by reading the Cisco Security books and whatever I
can
> find on Cisco's web site. I am using my R/S lab at home and building
my
own
> labs, IPSec tunnels, Pix, ACS, etc. Eventually I will look at
purchasing
> some lab scenarios, maybe from Hello Computers. What do you think your
> approach will be? If there are any guys in Chicago who would like to
study
> together for CCIE Security, contact me offline.
>
> Thanks
>
> Brian T. Albert
> CCIE #9682
> brian.albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> Chuck Church
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:17 PM
> To: Security
> Subject: Hello
>
>
> All,
>
>     I just thought I'd introduce myself.  I'm thinking pretty hard
about
> going for the CCIE Security.  My current CCIE is R&S.  Haven't seen
any
> messages since I joined yesterday, just wondering if there's many
people
on
> this list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chuck Church
> CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE