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RE: SA Timeouts posted 12/08/2002
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Hi

The default for IPSec Sas is one hour - you should set your IPSec SA
timeouts to shorter than your IKE SA timeouts, as must more information is
exchanged over an IPSec SA.   If you are using DES encryption, I'd
recommended setting these quite low as DES is easily cracked these days.
You can leave the timeouts as the defaults if you choose high strength
encryption (e.g. 3DES or AES-256) as well as strong DH groups (e.g. Group 5
or Group 7).  Also use PFS to ensure IKE and IPSec session keys are
separate.  I generally tune down the IKE SA timeout to 4 hours (from the
default of 1 day) and leave the IPSec SA to 1 hour - however I live in New
Zealand and don't really deal with the huge VPNs you can get elsewhere in
the world.

The only real load will be if keys are renegotiated at the same time - this
would only happen if lots of users connected at the same time, which your
box must be designed to cope with any time.  Obviously if you are using
high-strength DH groups (e.g. Group 7), and PFS, the load is significantly
increased when generating new session keys, so ensure you don't set timeouts
too low when using these high security features.

Regards,
Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:cgogarty@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:06 PM
To: security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: SA Timeouts


Anybody have any real world experience on setting timeouts for IPSEC and
ISAKMP sa's??   The default is kind of large, so I was going to reduce it to
an hour or so, and then started thinking that an hour is to short.. so the
trade off is performance for security.  Specifically it's with a 3005 and
about 37 remote sites, 3des.  Given that the 3005 doesn't do encryption in
hardware am I going to overburden the box???



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