I want to thank you, John and all the others that shared their input on this
one. I did this so another one of our buddies (Wilton) on this list can get
a sense as to what other people think is fair... not only from a hiring
manager's standpoint but also from other consultants as well. My opinion is
this... I think with only 2 years of IT industry, both of them dealing with
Cisco gear and having the CCIE, should be a minimum of 50/hr for a long term
project... For a 1-3 month gig, about 60/Hr.
Again, thanks to everyone here that put in their 2 cents or 83 cents in
Robert's case ;-)
Raymond Thomas
Vice President
Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
646-526-6171 cell
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Fowler [mailto:RFOWLER@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:32 AM
To: 'Raymond Thomas'; jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: CCIE salary is going down, should I take the offer? [3:3533]
Raymond,
I do not feel age should play a role here. However the fact that
she only has 2 years of experience should be balanced in. The CCIE
certification recommends 2 years of experience. I know 20 year-olds with
only their MCSE that are making $45/hr or slightly more for consulting.
Granted these aren't long term contracts(1-3 months). I think that this
person should be evaluated objectively. Look at what experience that they
have does it fit? The CCIE is still a powerful credential, especially if the
woman spends every day living with another CCIE. $45/hr for a CCIE as a
consultant - awfully low for short-term -- $45/hr for someone with 2 years
experience - a little high -- As for the third criteria you mentioned, it
shouldn't factor in. Maybe their maturity level could be, as with any age,
but if you are considering offering the position to them you must have
already determined they are responsible enough. Just my 83 cents worth. :)
Robert Fowler
Network Administrator
-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Thomas [mailto:raymond@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 5:00 PM
To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: CCIE salary is going down, should I take the offer?
[3:3533]
John,
Quick question to you and all hiring managers... suppose there was a 20 yr
old young woman who is a CCIE after being in the industry only two
years...
should she be offered less than 45/hr if she was a consultant? BTW... this
woman exists because I spoke with her husband who is also a CCIE.
Any feed back would be highly appreciated.
Regards,
Raymond Thomas
Vice President
Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
646-526-6171 cell
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
John Kaberna
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:40 PM
To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: CCIE salary is going down, should I take the offer?
[3:3532]
There isn't really such a thing as a paper CCIE since you can't pass just
from books. But, there is what I call lab rats. Those are the people
that
get lucky enough to pass after doing all thier studying on a home lab
and/or
attending all the Cisco training courses. I would never hire a lab rat as
they disgrace the program.
John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
NETCG Inc.
Cisco Premier Partner
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800
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""Dennis"" wrote in message
news:200110031259.IAA25288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Who said there's no such thing as paper CCIEs?
>
>
>
>
> ""SAGJ SAGJ"" wrote in message
> news:200110020437.AAA07479@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Im a CCIE and I recently got an offer to work in Tampa Fl. I got a
base
> > salary of 78000+Bonus(15000) should I take this offer?.I don't have
any
> > other offer at this moment. Please advice.
> >
> > sagj
> >
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