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Re: CCIE salary is going down, should I take the offer? [3:3540] posted 10/03/2001
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45 an hour is pretty low for a CCIE in a major metro area.  Did she pass the
CCIE after two years of solid Cisco experience?  I consider that the
minimum.  2 years is the minimum and I would evaluate what she did in that 2
years.  But, the first 2 years is typically no comparison to what you do in
the following years after that.  If I look at what I did the first two years
compared to what I've done the last two years it's night and day.

To put the salary thing in perspective, I was making $60 an hour doing my
first Cisco job.  I already had a couple years on Novell and NT and was able
to do a little networking here and there.  But, my first day-to-day Cisco
job I made $60.  I was not even close to a CCIE.  As long as she actually
knew what she was doing and didn't just have her husband tell her the lab
then I think she should get more than $45 an hour an a place like NYC or SF.
If she lives in Mobile, AL she is probably overpaid.

Passing the lab is not that hard if you have a CCIE teaching you what is on
the lab.  I am willing to bet anything I could take my 19 year old
girlfriend and have her pass the CCIE in 6 months.  But, I wouldn't do that.
I would find it very hard to believe her husband didn't have anything to do
with her passing.

John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
NETCG Inc.
Cisco Premier Partner
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800

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""Raymond Thomas""  wrote in message
news:200110032100.RAA31223@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> John,
>
> Quick question to you and all hiring managers... suppose there was a 20 yr
> old young woman who is a CCIE after being in the industry only two
years...
> should she be offered less than 45/hr if she was a consultant? BTW... this
> woman exists because I spoke with her husband who is also a CCIE.
>
> Any feed back would be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Raymond Thomas
> Vice President
> Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> 516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
> 646-526-6171 cell
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> John Kaberna
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:40 PM
> To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: CCIE salary is going down, should I take the offer?
> [3:3532]
>
>
> There isn't really such a thing as a paper CCIE since you can't pass just
> from books.  But, there is what I call lab rats.  Those are the people
that
> get lucky enough to pass after doing all thier studying on a home lab
and/or
> attending all the Cisco training courses.  I would never hire a lab rat as
> they disgrace the program.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> NETCG Inc.
> Cisco Premier Partner
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
> __________________
> CCIE Security Training
> www.netcginc.com/training.htm
>
>
> ""Dennis""  wrote in message
> news:200110031259.IAA25288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Who said there's no such thing as paper CCIEs?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ""SAGJ SAGJ""  wrote in message
> > news:200110020437.AAA07479@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Im a CCIE and I recently got an offer to work in Tampa Fl. I got a
base
> > > salary of 78000+Bonus(15000) should I take this offer?.I don't have
any
> > > other offer at this moment. Please advice.
> > >
> > > sagj
> > >
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