Note that previous posts have said that they started out the same, to keep
going, etc. A business has to believe that you will earn them more revenue
than you will cost them. If you can't show that with experience, they can't
afford to put you in an expensive job. If you demonstrate it with aptitude,
with knowledge, with attitude, they may well be willing to take a chance on
training you. But bear in mind that you cost them _much_ more than you see
in the paycheck. Part of that cost is explicit, in the form of dollars
actually spent on taxes and benefits. Another part is implicit, in the lack
of speed that you will operate at compared to someone with experience. Go in
understanding the business problem you represent, and offer to be a bigger
asset than a liability and they may hire you.
Of course, they may not, too, in which case you move on. This is a
business-side view of what Pradeep is saying (hi, there--I'll reply off-line
when I catch up)--those companies are betting on the learning curve that
these people will travel. Often it's a good bet, sometimes it's not. Your
hardest job may be to convince them you're a good bet.
Kevin Zsenak wrote in message
<20000406141019.10357.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>...
<snip>
>I would like to know from the senior guys how they got
>started. I would especially appreciate comments from
>fellow MCSEs or CNEs that switched to Cisco.
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin
>
>
>
>--- "Pradeep Kumar MCSE i ,CCNA"
><pk_pradeep@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Danny Mills,
>>
>> I have had such discouraging directions from this
>> guy Rob.
>>
>> Well, to tell you the truth there are lot of
>> companies who are taking CCNA labelled guys just
>> for the sake of the label and put them on the
>> field with other engineers. It is a matter of
>> proffessional pride for the companies to have a
>> CCNA or any CCxx on the staff of support engrs.
>>
>> So, you take a help desk , you are stuck to it.
>> It is better to ask for low salary and work on
>> the field rather than a desk job.
>>
>> You can quote between 35 - 45 K if u are a total
>> fresher . After working for 6 months u ask for a
>> raise , ie ask them for 45- 50 K else leave the
>> company and DEMAND 50 - 60 K. You will get it .
>> If u dont , hold me up.
>>
>> If u are anywhere near New York , I can help
>> you.( free)
>>
>> So cheers.....
>>
>> Love and luck
>> Pradeep
>>
>> --- Rob <rhmears3@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I do not want to sound negitive, but you might
>> > want to take that job at the
>> > helpdesk.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
>> > Danny
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:00 PM
>> > To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: first job
>> >
>> >
>> > What are the chances a new CCNA with no
>> > experience, fresh out of the Cisco
>> > Academy, can get even an entry level job
>> > working with routers? If the
>> > chances are too dismal, maybe I'll just take
>> > that job on the help desk. (I
>> > won't even get out of the Academy until the
>> > Fall.)
>> >
>> > Danny Mills
>> >
>>
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