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Re: first job posted 04/06/2000
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I concur with Joe's words. I'm at a helpdesk environment in a software company. I started out with content support, moved rapidly into systems support (make their computer/network work) because I'm good, and because I dig in and figure out what's going on and why. I've done the same in systems, picking up MCSE and CCNA to document my digging in, not to be my ticket--they validate depth of knowledge, but do not replace experience.
 
I'm talking to a local body shop (in Dallas) re a new NOC for a major communications company. I'll have to take a small pay cut (my current firm pays quite well), but I'm willing to do that to step sideways onto a better path. As I recall, you said you're north of Dallas; if you can handle a commute to Richardson, let me know at annleeh@xxxxxxxxxxx and I can refer you to them.
 
Best of luck any way you choose to go.
 
Annlee Hines
 
"Joe Szczepanski" wrote in message <001d01bf9fc5$aa2cce20$6f21010a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>...
Danny -
What type of help desk?  What does the company do?  If the company is an ISP, you may want to consider the job.  Generally a help desk, or NOC (depending on the role the NOC plays in an organization) are considered entry level jobs.  Will the help desk job provide you with any exposures to WAN support?  If it does, you may want to consider it.  Even if it doesn't mean working with cisco equipment.  If you are required to determine where the problem lies (i.e. server, communications line, router, etc) you will be gaining valuable experience.  Also, you maybe able to talk the router jockeys into letting you play with their toys every once in a while.   If the help desk does application support, you may want to turn the job down.  You wont be gaining much by telling people how to double click on the icons.  I will warn you that a help desk job is consider a very low level job at most companies.  You probably wont get much respect from the end users, and the 2nd and 3rd level support groups will require you to prove yourself before they will give you much respect.  It's not that way everywhere, but it seems to be that way in most places.  Hence the negative attitudes toward help desk jobs.  That said, I can tell you that I have never worked a help desk, but I have managed a good size one for a number of years.  You can gain good experience at one if it is a good help desk.  Like I said, look at what they do.  If they are supporting the things you want to get into, it maybe worth taking.  Otherwise, you may want to keep looking.
 
Joe
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Subject: first job

What are the chances a new CCNA with no experience, fresh out of the Cisco Academy, can get even an entry level job working with routers?   If the chances are too dismal, maybe I'll just take that job on the help desk.  (I won't even get out of the Academy until the Fall.)
 
Danny Mills