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Re: CISCO and Community College ? posted 04/04/2000
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""Pradeep Kumar MCSE i ,CCNA"" <pk_pradeep@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Please scroll down to the end of this mail .
| there is a mention of a community college
| associated with CISCO .Could someone tell me
| which is this community college?
|
|
| i am located at Albany, NY.Any community college
| located around.
|
| thanks.
|
|
| --- Joe Szczepanski <joes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| > I second this.  I really dont have much to add,
| > but as someone who is
| > responsible for hiring all levels of networking
| > professionals, I must say
| > that these comments are right on.
| > joe
| >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
| > > Flashback
| > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 5:46 PM
| > > To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > > Subject: Re: your mail
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > When looking over resumes for potential
| > employees, I NEVER consider lab
| > > training as experience.  I think you'll find
| > most employers feel the same
| > > way, rightly or wrongly.
| > > In fact, I think that if you try to sell your
| > two years in the
| > > classroom as
| > > OTJ experience, you may be harming your
| > efforts; the employer will think
| > > you naive at best and dishonest at worst.
| > > Lab training certainly gets your foot in the
| > door, and certifications also
| > > help get that first job.  However, I'd never
| > hire someone for anything but
| > > an entry level position if they've never had
| > "battlefield" experience.  If
| > > you're truly talented, and can make the right
| > decisions under pressure,
| > > you'll rise up the ladder rapidly.
| > > Here are some points to consider:
| > > -In college, trade school, classroom
| > training, you're exposed to the
| > > environment maybe 8 hours a week...and that's
| > if you're a conscientious
| > > student.  When you're working full-time,
| > you're exposed to the environment
| > > 40-50 hours a week...and that's if you're not
| > studying in your
| > > "free" time.
| > > -In classroom based training, the problems
| > occur right on schedule and
| > > you've usually got the entire class period to
| > work out a 15
| > > minute problem.
| > >  In production, the problems occur when you
| > least expect them and when you
| > > least can afford them;  you've got 15 minutes
| > to work out a problem that
| > > should take a day to resolve, and all while
| > the client (who pays your
| > > check) is asking, every minute or two, why
| > the network is down.
| > > -In classroom training, your screwup causes
| > you to take longer to finish
| > > the configuration lab and might cause your
| > grade to be lowered by
| > > a letter.
| > >  In production, your screwup causes real
| > monetary losses to your client;
| > > and, in a worst case scenerio, could get you
| > fired.
| > > -In classroom training, you're never forced
| > to make a decision
| > > that affects
| > > thousands of users in less time than most
| > people spend deciding what to
| > > have for lunch.  The ability to think of the
| > ramifications of your actions
| > > can make or break your career.
| > Unfortunately, there's little big picture
| > > thinking in configuring and troubleshooting a
| > 2600 in a lab.
| > >
| > > With all that said, I think classroom
| > training is an excellent thing and
| > > well worth the effort you put into it.  If
| > you're wise, you'll
| > > get a job as
| > > an intern or co-op while you're taking the
| > classes.  That way, when you
| > > graduate, you'll be able to honestly say that
| > you have some real world
| > > experience.
| > >
| > > Just my $0.02....
| > > Craig
| > >
| > >
| > > >On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Rodriguez, Noel wrote:
| > > >
| > > >> I keep reading messages that from
| > individuals of the lack of
| > > >> experience or hands on.  My question to
| > the group, would be this:  I
| > > >> am attending a community college
| > associated with the CISCO academy.
| > > >>  In our labs we configure, troubleshoot
| > 2500 series routers.  Would
| > > >> employers consider this "experience"?  In
| > their "sell" of the program,
| > > >> we are to understand that this program,
| > can be considered as two years
| > > >> of experience, because of the hands on.
| > Feedback?
| > > >> Noel
| > > >>
| > > >>
| >
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| >
| >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
| > > >Andrew Short, CCNP/CCDA       Colossians
| > 3:23       ashort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > > >
| > > >"It is rare, but not unprecedented, for a
| > hockey player to face criminal
| > > >charges for action on the ice." -Associated
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| > > >
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