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Re: CISCO and Community College ? posted 04/04/2000
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Here's a link to Cisco's Neworking Acadamy page.  There's a link to find the
closest site.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/edu/academy/

--Nick


""Pradeep Kumar MCSE i ,CCNA"" <pk_pradeep@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20000404145800.10487.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Please scroll down to the end of this mail .
> there is a mention of a community college
> associated with CISCO .Could someone tell me
> which is this community college?
>
>
> i am located at Albany, NY.Any community college
> located around.
>
> thanks.
>
>
> --- Joe Szczepanski <joes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I second this.  I really dont have much to add,
> > but as someone who is
> > responsible for hiring all levels of networking
> > professionals, I must say
> > that these comments are right on.
> > joe
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > > Flashback
> > > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 5:46 PM
> > > To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: your mail
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > When looking over resumes for potential
> > employees, I NEVER consider lab
> > > training as experience.  I think you'll find
> > most employers feel the same
> > > way, rightly or wrongly.
> > > In fact, I think that if you try to sell your
> > two years in the
> > > classroom as
> > > OTJ experience, you may be harming your
> > efforts; the employer will think
> > > you naive at best and dishonest at worst.
> > > Lab training certainly gets your foot in the
> > door, and certifications also
> > > help get that first job.  However, I'd never
> > hire someone for anything but
> > > an entry level position if they've never had
> > "battlefield" experience.  If
> > > you're truly talented, and can make the right
> > decisions under pressure,
> > > you'll rise up the ladder rapidly.
> > > Here are some points to consider:
> > > -In college, trade school, classroom
> > training, you're exposed to the
> > > environment maybe 8 hours a week...and that's
> > if you're a conscientious
> > > student.  When you're working full-time,
> > you're exposed to the environment
> > > 40-50 hours a week...and that's if you're not
> > studying in your
> > > "free" time.
> > > -In classroom based training, the problems
> > occur right on schedule and
> > > you've usually got the entire class period to
> > work out a 15
> > > minute problem.
> > >  In production, the problems occur when you
> > least expect them and when you
> > > least can afford them;  you've got 15 minutes
> > to work out a problem that
> > > should take a day to resolve, and all while
> > the client (who pays your
> > > check) is asking, every minute or two, why
> > the network is down.
> > > -In classroom training, your screwup causes
> > you to take longer to finish
> > > the configuration lab and might cause your
> > grade to be lowered by
> > > a letter.
> > >  In production, your screwup causes real
> > monetary losses to your client;
> > > and, in a worst case scenerio, could get you
> > fired.
> > > -In classroom training, you're never forced
> > to make a decision
> > > that affects
> > > thousands of users in less time than most
> > people spend deciding what to
> > > have for lunch.  The ability to think of the
> > ramifications of your actions
> > > can make or break your career.
> > Unfortunately, there's little big picture
> > > thinking in configuring and troubleshooting a
> > 2600 in a lab.
> > >
> > > With all that said, I think classroom
> > training is an excellent thing and
> > > well worth the effort you put into it.  If
> > you're wise, you'll
> > > get a job as
> > > an intern or co-op while you're taking the
> > classes.  That way, when you
> > > graduate, you'll be able to honestly say that
> > you have some real world
> > > experience.
> > >
> > > Just my $0.02....
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> > > >On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Rodriguez, Noel wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I keep reading messages that from
> > individuals of the lack of
> > > >> experience or hands on.  My question to
> > the group, would be this:  I
> > > >> am attending a community college
> > associated with the CISCO academy.
> > > >>  In our labs we configure, troubleshoot
> > 2500 series routers.  Would
> > > >> employers consider this "experience"?  In
> > their "sell" of the program,
> > > >> we are to understand that this program,
> > can be considered as two years
> > > >> of experience, because of the hands on.
> > Feedback?
> > > >> Noel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> >
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