Please scroll down to the end of this mail .
there is a mention of a community college
associated with CISCO .Could someone tell me
which is this community college?
i am located at Albany, NY.Any community college
located around.
thanks.
--- Joe Szczepanski <joes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I second this. I really dont have much to add,
> but as someone who is
> responsible for hiring all levels of networking
> professionals, I must say
> that these comments are right on.
> joe
>
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> > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > Flashback
> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 5:46 PM
> > To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: your mail
> >
> >
> >
> > When looking over resumes for potential
> employees, I NEVER consider lab
> > training as experience. I think you'll find
> most employers feel the same
> > way, rightly or wrongly.
> > In fact, I think that if you try to sell your
> two years in the
> > classroom as
> > OTJ experience, you may be harming your
> efforts; the employer will think
> > you naive at best and dishonest at worst.
> > Lab training certainly gets your foot in the
> door, and certifications also
> > help get that first job. However, I'd never
> hire someone for anything but
> > an entry level position if they've never had
> "battlefield" experience. If
> > you're truly talented, and can make the right
> decisions under pressure,
> > you'll rise up the ladder rapidly.
> > Here are some points to consider:
> > -In college, trade school, classroom
> training, you're exposed to the
> > environment maybe 8 hours a week...and that's
> if you're a conscientious
> > student. When you're working full-time,
> you're exposed to the environment
> > 40-50 hours a week...and that's if you're not
> studying in your
> > "free" time.
> > -In classroom based training, the problems
> occur right on schedule and
> > you've usually got the entire class period to
> work out a 15
> > minute problem.
> > In production, the problems occur when you
> least expect them and when you
> > least can afford them; you've got 15 minutes
> to work out a problem that
> > should take a day to resolve, and all while
> the client (who pays your
> > check) is asking, every minute or two, why
> the network is down.
> > -In classroom training, your screwup causes
> you to take longer to finish
> > the configuration lab and might cause your
> grade to be lowered by
> > a letter.
> > In production, your screwup causes real
> monetary losses to your client;
> > and, in a worst case scenerio, could get you
> fired.
> > -In classroom training, you're never forced
> to make a decision
> > that affects
> > thousands of users in less time than most
> people spend deciding what to
> > have for lunch. The ability to think of the
> ramifications of your actions
> > can make or break your career.
> Unfortunately, there's little big picture
> > thinking in configuring and troubleshooting a
> 2600 in a lab.
> >
> > With all that said, I think classroom
> training is an excellent thing and
> > well worth the effort you put into it. If
> you're wise, you'll
> > get a job as
> > an intern or co-op while you're taking the
> classes. That way, when you
> > graduate, you'll be able to honestly say that
> you have some real world
> > experience.
> >
> > Just my $0.02....
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > >On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Rodriguez, Noel wrote:
> > >
> > >> I keep reading messages that from
> individuals of the lack of
> > >> experience or hands on. My question to
> the group, would be this: I
> > >> am attending a community college
> associated with the CISCO academy.
> > >> In our labs we configure, troubleshoot
> 2500 series routers. Would
> > >> employers consider this "experience"? In
> their "sell" of the program,
> > >> we are to understand that this program,
> can be considered as two years
> > >> of experience, because of the hands on.
> Feedback?
> > >> Noel
> > >>
> > >>
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