I second this. I really dont have much to add, but as someone who is
responsible for hiring all levels of networking professionals, I must say
that these comments are right on.
joe
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> When looking over resumes for potential employees, I NEVER consider lab
> training as experience. I think you'll find most employers feel the same
> way, rightly or wrongly.
> In fact, I think that if you try to sell your two years in the
> classroom as
> OTJ experience, you may be harming your efforts; the employer will think
> you naive at best and dishonest at worst.
> Lab training certainly gets your foot in the door, and certifications also
> help get that first job. However, I'd never hire someone for anything but
> an entry level position if they've never had "battlefield" experience. If
> you're truly talented, and can make the right decisions under pressure,
> you'll rise up the ladder rapidly.
> Here are some points to consider:
> -In college, trade school, classroom training, you're exposed to the
> environment maybe 8 hours a week...and that's if you're a conscientious
> student. When you're working full-time, you're exposed to the environment
> 40-50 hours a week...and that's if you're not studying in your
> "free" time.
> -In classroom based training, the problems occur right on schedule and
> you've usually got the entire class period to work out a 15
> minute problem.
> In production, the problems occur when you least expect them and when you
> least can afford them; you've got 15 minutes to work out a problem that
> should take a day to resolve, and all while the client (who pays your
> check) is asking, every minute or two, why the network is down.
> -In classroom training, your screwup causes you to take longer to finish
> the configuration lab and might cause your grade to be lowered by
> a letter.
> In production, your screwup causes real monetary losses to your client;
> and, in a worst case scenerio, could get you fired.
> -In classroom training, you're never forced to make a decision
> that affects
> thousands of users in less time than most people spend deciding what to
> have for lunch. The ability to think of the ramifications of your actions
> can make or break your career. Unfortunately, there's little big picture
> thinking in configuring and troubleshooting a 2600 in a lab.
>
> With all that said, I think classroom training is an excellent thing and
> well worth the effort you put into it. If you're wise, you'll
> get a job as
> an intern or co-op while you're taking the classes. That way, when you
> graduate, you'll be able to honestly say that you have some real world
> experience.
>
> Just my $0.02....
> Craig
>
>
> >On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Rodriguez, Noel wrote:
> >
> >> I keep reading messages that from individuals of the lack of
> >> experience or hands on. My question to the group, would be this: I
> >> am attending a community college associated with the CISCO academy.
> >> In our labs we configure, troubleshoot 2500 series routers. Would
> >> employers consider this "experience"? In their "sell" of the program,
> >> we are to understand that this program, can be considered as two years
> >> of experience, because of the hands on. Feedback?
> >> Noel
> >>
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