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RE: Moving to WAN - HELP! posted 04/03/2000
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at the risk of soapboxing again, may I suggest that there are jobs for beginners. Maybe not a lot. Maybe hard to find. but they are there. managers can and will give you a chance if you can demonstrate that you are the kind of person to can add value, are a problem solver, and can help make the manager's life easier.
 
some things to consider:
 
in the interview, do you present yourself as someone willing and eager to learn?
 
do you come across as someone just looking for a job, or as someone who goes out of his/her way to add value to the job?
 
when asked a question, and you don't know the answer, how do you respond? I don't know? or I don't know. But let me write down the question, research it tonight, and call you tomorrow morning with what I have discovered?
 
when asked what you are looking for in a job, do you respond with the old "a challenging position where I can learn and grow"? or do you try to inject a bit of your dreams and aspirations into your answer? Something like "I enjoy solving problems in such a way that our clients are back in operation and that the problem will not happen again."? Or "I want to work with people who share a common goal of no downtime, and who will work their butts off to meet that commitment"? sounds hoaky, and maybe my wording is. But I'm sure you can come up with some good ideas with a little thought.
 
that first job is tough to find. but it is there, if you keep your eyes open, and your goals clear. add value. solve problems.
 
best wishes.
 
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark Rose
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 8:27 PM
To: jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Moving to WAN - HELP!

Maybe that's what a lot of us have been asking for. But few wants to give that opportunity.We realize a certification is just a way to get the door open for an opportunity. We are not asking for a megga buck job just a chance.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob
Newsgroups: groupstudy.jobs
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Moving to WAN - HELP!

It's not the certification that should get you the job.  maybe you should try getting a position utilizing the equipment first.  Then use that experience to move to the next level.

Lee Miller wrote:

Good luck...it seems there are a lot of us relatively inexperienced CCNA's out there, and companies are NOT hot to hire us. "Good 'ole" WAN guys...let some newbies into your circle! Lee Miller
""Gustave Rabe"" <gustav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:000d01bf9b1c$63031840$01010102@xxxxxx...Can anyone help me to identify some companies looking for Junior WAN engineer.I have few years experience in LAN environment and  moving to WAN.I have 6 months experience of Configuring Cisco routers 2500, 1600 series and also catalyst 1900 and 5500 switches.I am planning to very shortly sit for CCNP exam. Ready to relocate. Thanks for your help.Gustave.  I am: A+ ,CNE, MCSE, ASE, CCNA.gustav@xxxxxxxxxxxx