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RE: DS-3 card [7:98158] posted 04/01/2005
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It should be noted that the modules you mentioned are for ATM. Does the
lower-end 2600 series also now support the NM-1T3/E3 non-ATM modules?


>>> Bill Creighton (wcreight) 4/1/05 11:18:45 AM >>>
The 3745 is the strongest box that the DS3 card is available for

The 2600 Will support the card per released documentation (URL below)
(with min. 12.1(2)T Plus and 48Mb DRAM)

The 3845, as a new platform, has not been fully tested with the DS3
interface, it will be supported soon.

As for DS3 line rate vs. Ethernet - Priscilla, please back me up, but
there is significant overhead (headers, encapsulation, etc.) associated
with a TDM/serial link as opposed to Ethernet - that is why comparing
bandwidth on those types of interfaces is like apples and oranges... 


Bill Creighton

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Duncan Maccubbin
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: Re: DS-3 card [7:98158]
> Hmm, this is from Cisco's site:
> The Cisco T3/E3 Network Module provides the high-speed 
> performance required to build today's advanced, fully 
> converged networks that need to support a wide array of 
> applications and services such as security, and advanced 
> quality of service (QoS) for voice and video. T3/E3 and 
> subrate T3/E3 connectivity allows customers to take the 
> fullest advantage of their WAN bandwidth for deploying the 
> newest applications and service delivery. The Cisco 3745, for 
> instance, is the highest-performing platform and is 
> recommended for concurrent application environments where 
> full wire rate is required. The Cisco 3725 and Cisco 3660 are 
> the next highest-level performers; they have very similar CPU 
> loading characteristics under comparable traffic conditions
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Neiberger
> Sent: Apr 1, 2005 7:58 AM
> To: cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: Re: DS-3 card [7:98158]
> > One of our long time Cisco techs we have on the contract 
> says it can 
> >be done if you use a lot of memory.
> One other thing... Memory is not the issue. The problem is 
> processing power.
> Smaller routers like the 2600XM series simply don't have 
> enough horsepower to handle these cards. In order to handle a 
> full-rate DS3 you need a 3660 or
> 3845 router or bigger. Even a 3825 can't do full-rate DS3. It 
> takes quite a bit of processing, which does seem a little 
> strange. Why do these routers have such a hard time with 45 
> Mbps speeds when many of them can support two Fast Ethernet ports?
> Even stranger, the 3825 can support two Gigabit Ethernet 
> ports yet it can't run full-rate DS3. What the heck? It makes 
> no sense, but that's what the Cisco documentation says.
> HTH,
> John

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