Todd didn't actually say that the book "only" teaches enough to pass the
test. He said that his book covers the information well enough to pass the
test. Having read 3 of his books (CCDA, CLSC, ACRC), I can attest to the
fact that they do not just teach you to "only" pass the test.
You can't put every possible topic in a single book or test. That's why we
must read many books and take many tests on our path to certification. CCNA
is an entry-level certification and I don't believe any employers out there
think you a network guru solely on the merit of having this certification.
It's just a way to get into the door, so having a book that specifically
prepares you for CCNA is only a good thing. We could all read 20 or 30
books over the next couple of years and then possibly pass all of the cert
tests at once. Personally, however, I like to get the certs in order and in
a gradual procession. Besides, I think that anybody that can read a book
(versus taking a class), absorb the material, and then pass what is
considered a difficult test has the ability to be successful in this
industry. Everybody starts out somewhere and CCNA is just as good a
starting point as any other.
If you are so worried about dilution of job opportunities, maybe you aren't
as strong in this field as you think. Somebody with proven experience and
certifications will always rise above the crowd when the competition heats
up. After all, doesn't competition increase quality rather than decrease
it? Ask GM, Ford, and Chrysler about that.
By the way, Todd didn't break the NDA. Divulging the number of questions,
time allotted, and passing score is not a violation. You can contact Cisco
directly for the same information. He didn't claim to give any specific
content from the test, but rather that the book will train you well enough
to pass it. After all, what good is the book if you can't pass the exam
afterwards? I think we would all agree that passing the exam is a primary
reason for reading a CCNA book!
Way to go Todd! You make entering the world of Cisco much easier for people
that are new to networking. I have done this for years, but we will always
need more entry-level people to move in and eventually take over when we
seniors decide to retire on our stock options!
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Quibell [mailto:mquibell@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 12:16 PM
To: cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: new CCNA 2.0
Actually, I use Cisco Press books that teach you the subject or help you
brush up on the technology. I don't read books or peruse practice tests
(Boson, CCNA study guides, Exam Cram...etc) that have only one goal in mind:
Get you to buy their book that teaches you how to pass the test. Why else
would Mr. Lammle write a book covering the new exam only? This is what I
termed 'dilution'. Books and cheat-sheet exams that cover only passing an
exam have always been the cause of certification dysfunction.
And also I believe that Mr. Lammle signed an agreement when he took the
test. Revealing the contents of the exam in a book is a violation of that
agreement. :')
Marc
""Chris Gore"" <cgore@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8emtos$uvu$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> "Chris Gore" <cgore@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:...
> > OK...But what do you really think?! It is not the books that are on the
> > market that dilute the certifications; it's the tests themselves! You
are
> > making a point to the wrong person. We all use books to educate
ourselves.
> > But if the test is easy (CCNA) then the cert is only apiece paper.
Hummmm
> I
> > wonder if you ever used a book??
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ""Marc Quibell"" <mquibell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:8emof0$e5f$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Nice ad! Say, maybe u could write yet another book called, CCIE for
the
> > > inexperienced. Make it about 200 pages and then you can dilute that
> > > certification as well??!?
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > ""Todd Lammle"" <globalnetsys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:002701bfb2d6$80e4b180$0100a8c0@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > I took the CCNA 2.0 exam yesterday. It had 65 questions in 75
minutes,
> > > with
> > > > a passing score of 822 out off 1000. I received a 1000, which means
I
> > > missed
> > > > none. You cannot go back to questions once answered.
> > > >
> > > > I have a new book (CCNA 2.0) coming out in about three weeks. It has
> > > > absolutely everything you will find on the exam. I have included
over
> > 400
> > > > practice exam questions, 250 flash cards, plus both written and
> hands-on
> > > > labs to make sure you are tuned and ready for the new exam. All
> hands-on
> > > > labs in the book can be used with my Routersim product
> > > (www.routersim.com),
> > > > and/or Sybex's CCNA e-trainer.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > Todd Lammle
> > > >
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