It almost sounds like you are against people using books at all, and taking
the test only on experience. That to me sounds like reinventing the deep
dish over and over. Why not combine the experience with a book and learn new
stuff about it, that you might not ever know was possible.
A good example is that I have been using Microsoft Word for years now, but
then one day I was walking around in a book store, I grapped a Word book and
looked in it for 2 minutes, and then I found out that I could click to the
left of a line and mark the entire line. I had always used the cursor over
the entire line to mark it, and if I hadn't read it there, I would probably
still do it that way.
The thing that I'm trying to prove here, is that many years of experience
with anything, will not guarentee that you know everything about it. That
attitude will be very dangerous for your self, because one day you will find
everyone else around you knowing much more about the different devices than
you, because they used study guides.
In the ICND book, I have found some things that they just mention, but never
really explain in dept, while Todd's book(s) do a better job to make you
understand why and what it is.
My last comment in this Wednesday morning e-mail would be: I would be more
comfortable around Cisco Routers/Switches if I had only read Todd's book
compared to if I had only read the ICND book from Cisco Press.
Another two cents.
Ole
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Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
OJensen@xxxxxxx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Quibell [mailto:mquibell@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:55 PM
> To: cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: new CCNA 2.0
>
>
> Thank you for proving my point that the use of the book is to
> make it easier
> for the less-technical people to get the same certs as us
> more proficient
> and experienced professionals. Because those of us who have
> experience CAN
> understand the techinical writings Cisco publishes. You even
> stated you use
> it in your school..for inexperienced people to be able to at
> least pass a
> test. This accomplishes nothing more than degradation of the
> Cisco Titles.
> Nice job!
>
> Marc
>
> Schmendrick Dawes <bobmon99@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:20000502221225.18530.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Let's give Todd a break. My personal experience has
> > been that when I convinced my school to switch from
> > the Cisco Press ICRC book to Lammle's study notes for
> > CCNA, interest in the reading went up enormously.
> > Every comment on the Cisco ICRC book was "boring,
> > unreadable", while the Lammle book seems to be written
> > by a human being. The whole purpose of these tests is
> > not to show mastery of a program or device, but to
> > show that a person is TRAINABLE. This is what
> > companies are looking for. Personally, I could give
> > all my students the answers to the CCNA in the first
> > two weeks of my class, but that would be true
> > dilution. I make them earn it by doing labs that
> > encompass all the concepts on the test, as well as
> > assigned reading from Lammle. The ones who get the
> > certs are the ones who deserve it, not the ones who
> > just try to take the shortest and easiest path.
> > Also, one more thing on Cisco Press: How many pages
> > are there in ICRC on the important test topic of ISDN?
> > Answer: 1 sentence.
> > At least Lammle has four or five pages.....
> >
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