From: Ole Drews Jensen <OJensen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'Marc Quibell' <mquibell@xxxxxxxxxxx>, cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: new CCNA 2.0
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 13:36:16 -0500
I would like to comment your statement.
I have read many many many books, and I do not see Study Guides as books
that only has the purpose of teaching you to pass an exam. A good example
is
Todd Lammle's Study Guide, which is actually bigger than the official
course
book.
I believe that the major job of Study Guides is to "talk" to normal people
in a more normal language than many of the official books, user guides, etc
fails to do. I have seen books made by the manufactor of a product that I
had to put back in the box after reading them over and over without them
making any sense.
I have used many of Todd Lammle's books together with other books to help
me
understand the various topics, and then of course (very important) practise
it with your own hands. I see that as learning you the material, telling
you
how to practise it, and then testing you to see if you understood what the
book was trying to tell you. I do not see it as teaching you to pass the
test.
Back in the early 80's where I bought my Commodore 64, I tried to read the
Commodore 64 User Guide, but found that it would probably be easier to
learn
Arabic Folk Dance in Yoga Style. I managed to find a good study guide, and
after I saw the bytes as train wagens and bits as eight windows in each
train wagen, I understood what Commodore had been talking about in their
manual, and I have since then been programming some pretty complex routines
in machine code and assembler.
If you can learn what you need to understand only by reading the official
course manuals, I am happy for you, but isn't a course manual made to teach
you about the topics of a course so you can pass the matching exam?
I don't really read any violation in Mr. Lammle's exam information other
than the number of questions and how much time you have, which both of
those
you will be informed about before you click the START EXAM button.
Just my two cents.
Ole
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Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
OJensen@xxxxxxx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Quibell [mailto:mquibell@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 12:21 PM
> To: cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: new CCNA 2.0
>
>
> Actually, I use Cisco Press books that teach you the subject
> or help you
> brush up on the technology. I don't read books or peruse
> practice tests
> (Boson, CCNA study guides, Exam Cram...etc) that have only
> one goal in mind:
> Get you to buy their book that teaches you how to pass the
> test. Why else
> would Mr. Lammle write a book covering the new exam only?
> This is what I
> termed 'dilution'. Books and cheat-sheet exams that cover
> only passing an
> exam have always been the cause of certification dysfunction.
>
> And also I believe that Mr. Lammle signed an agreement when
> he took the
> test. Revealing the contents of the exam in a book is a
> violation of that
> agreement. :')
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> ""Todd Lammle"" <globalnetsys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:002701bfb2d6$80e4b180$0100a8c0@xxxxxxxxx
> > I took the CCNA 2.0 exam yesterday. It had 65 questions in
> 75 minutes,
> with
> > a passing score of 822 out off 1000. I received a 1000,
> which means I
> missed
> > none. You cannot go back to questions once answered.
> >
> > I have a new book (CCNA 2.0) coming out in about three weeks. It has
> > absolutely everything you will find on the exam. I have
> included over 400
> > practice exam questions, 250 flash cards, plus both written
> and hands-on
> > labs to make sure you are tuned and ready for the new exam.
> All hands-on
> > labs in the book can be used with my Routersim product
> (www.routersim.com),
> > and/or Sybex's CCNA e-trainer.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Todd Lammle
> >
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