I believe that a couple of them still visits this forum from time to time,
so I leave it to them to decided for themselves if they feel that they want
to speak up. I have nothing to gain either way. As for tips, anything "
interesting" would be cover under NDA and probably not worthwhile for
anybody to discuss publicly, why risk their CCIE for nothing .
I personally find your method of testing everything for yourself much more
inspirational than crashing for CCIE. I'm saying that it can be done, not
that I encourage such crash course method of preparing for CCIE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Larrieu" <clarrieu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Oldwolfie" <oldwolfie@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Crouch, Keith"
<keith.crouch@xxxxxxxx>; "'Jason'" <oldwolfie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE
> Personally, I would enjoy hearing from those who have attained their CCIE,
> going from zero to CCIE in six months of self study. Such people would
serve
> as a great inspiration to many of us who periodically face the fear of
being
> too old or not smart enough.
>
> Do you suppose you could convince one or two of them to post something
here,
> offering tips, advice, materials used, etc? I'm sure several of us would
> find their words quite inspiring.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Oldwolfie
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:28 PM
> To: Crouch, Keith; 'Jason'; cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: CCIE
>
> You are thinking with the ego in the little head and not with your big
head.
> I have seen people with ZERO experiences getting their CCIE after 6 months
> of self-study full time. I've also seen people with 3 years of
"experiences"
> afraid of the lab so much that they dare not go for it .
>
> There is 5 routers, 1 switch in the CCIE Lab, 2 backbone routers that you
> have no access to. Limited topics to cover, ISDN DDR , backup routes , VPN
,
> OSPF , route redistribution, BGP , IGRP , VLSM , IP addressing, ISL , .Q1
> trunking, VTP, VLAN, RIP, Reverse Telnet, . If you take a day to master 1
> command and understand one routing topic in the Cisco IOS , you would have
> master everything in 20 weeks you need for the lab. It doesn't mean that
you
> master everything in networking, just what is in the lab.
>
> Labtime is 2 days, approx 16hrs total. The topics that can be cover within
> the lab can be guess to a 70%-80% certainty. Is it easy to prepare for it
in
> 20 weeks (140 days or 4 1/2 months) ? No. Is it impossible ? Not even
close.
>
> You Sir are a DICK HEAD for getting workup and heated over something (a
> comment) that has absolutely nothing to do with you . Can you go a take a
> cold shower .
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Crouch, Keith" <keith.crouch@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Jason'" <oldwolfie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 6:03 PM
> Subject: RE: CCIE
>
>
> Well this is about all I can take. There is some useful information to be
> found here but having to listen to fools like you JASON is more than I can
> take.
>
> Sir you are a complete knob head!!
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason [SMTP:oldwolfie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 3:30 AM
> > To: cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: CCIE
> >
> > Actually if you think about it., if a guy of average IQ cannot MASTER
> > Cisco
> > routers and switch after spenting 20 weeks of intensive fulltime
training
> > .
> > I think he should not be in Networking at all !!!! I'm not talking
mastery
> > to the level that some non-CCIE (e.g. Howard , etc) has !! But if you
are
> > purely looking at CCIE R&S certifications , 20 weeks is more than enough
> > if
> > you consider that it's full time and you have a instructor leading you .
> > If
> > any company makes me a offer of 20 weeks fulltime training, I'll be more
> > than glad to gurantee that I achieve CCIE at the end of the trainings.
> >
> >
> > ""Vern Stitt"" <stitt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:8ecl2e$1eb$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > If this really works, In a few years there will be about 300,000 CCIEs
> > and
> > > the certification will be as impressive as a MCSE is now.
> > >
> > > Personally, "My brain hurts!" comes to mind!
> > >
> > > Vern Stitt - AE, ASE, CCNA, MCSE
> > >
> > >
> > > Hans-Walter Katzengruber <Hans-Walter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
> > > news:B52BBE1F.2C7E%Hans-Walter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > > i am to prepare for the CCIE and it goes the follow way: 20 weeks of
> > full
> > > > time training, after 4 weeks DRAKE-Test (Routing and Switching) and
> > after
> > > 9
> > > > weeks DRAKE-Test (Dial-up) and at the end of the 20 weeks we go to
the
> > 2
> > > day
> > > > hands-on lab by CISCO in Brüssel (i think so). We have a very fast
> > speed
> > > and
> > > > after 1 week on the 3rd day we have to set up a router with
IP-Adress
> > and
> > > > OSPF. Now we on the 2cnd week and we learn Frame Relay, Token Ring
and
> > so
> > > > on. I am very happy for any regards.
> > > >
> > > > Grettings
> > > > Hans-Walter
> > > >
> > > > ___________________________________
> > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com
> > > > Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html
> > > > ---
> > >
> > >
> > > ___________________________________
> > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com
> > > Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html
> > > ---
> >
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com
> > Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html
>
> This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain
> confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No
> confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.
> If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
> copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify
the
> sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,
> print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
> recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each of its subsidiaries each reserve
> the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any
> views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except
> where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state
> them to be the views of any such entity.
>
>
>
>
> ___________________________________
> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com
> Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html
>
___________________________________
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com
Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html
