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Re: IE Announcement posted 11/01/2008
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Here's to the Glory ;-)

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Sandra,
>
> Well said, WELL SAID.
>
> Now.... some one here knows what they are talking about, the unfortunate
> part is that some of the people in this list will buy the BS.
>
> It is all about the $$$$$, that is why people are studying to become CCIEs,
> only .01 percent will do this for the glory. Being in this industry for the
> past 31 years i have seen and heard some BS, but this one is the winner,
> and
> once again they became number 1.
>
> By far the biggest advertisement on the GS i have ever seen. If IPexpert,
> ccbootcamp, Certsceince or anyone else did this, they would never hear the
> end of it.
>
> By the way all of my classes in US, Malaysia, Dubai and else where are
> always full and i am not saying this because i am hurting financially and i
> think my students are my witnesses, but this was not ethical at all.
>
> GS is probably the best forum today, sure we hear lots of offff topic
> stuff,
> but we are humans and these things happen and sometimes necessary, but
> overall its simply the best forum out there, if you duplicate it, you will
> ONLY have a copy of it and you can not be the original.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Sandra Davis <sandradvs61@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > IE's announcement - complete bullshit
> >
> >
> >
> > Internetwork Expert was not "selected" to be a part of the program. IE
> > applied to be a part of the program
> >
> > under tech 2000. THEY LOST the RFP!!! Plain and simple.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, a CLP can offer training in multiple markets if they meet the
> > requirements.
> >
> >
> >
> > Investment protection? Scholarship program? Hell yes, you can give away
> > training, you just have to pay cisco for the royalties.
> >
> >
> >
> > The TRUTH is that IE would have to pay royalties to deliver Cisco CCIE
> > classes and pay royalties for workbooks.
> >
> > So, YES, this IS about money! Don't believe the bullshit in the
> > presentation.
> >
> >
> >
> > The number of kits comment is complete crap. There is no longer a kit
> > requirement.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't want to flaunt out in public?! Then why mention how much $ you are
> > doing?! Come on!
> >
> >
> >
> > Nothing against Cisco? WTF! Of course you have to have Cisco equipment
> > because you offer Cisco grey market
> >
> > training.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scrapping products? UNTRUE! You can "compliment" the current 360 offering
> > with current products.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lower level certification classes you can develop pre-class study
> material
> > to make sure the student has the proper
> >
> > knowledge prior to entering a class.
> >
> >
> >
> > IE is suggesting shortcuts for becoming a CCIE. No concern for actual
> > learning!
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice slide! "Customer Success Manages" was supposed to be Customer
> Success
> > Managers. Great proof reading!
> >
> >
> >
> > If classes are as bad as this presentation, then their classes must suck.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mailing list issues? IE is one of the biggest issues that spams the hell
> > out
> > of mailing lists!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Customer blogs vendor neutral? My ass!
> >
> >
> >
> > Real world examples? Yeah, right. NONE of the IE instructors are IN the
> > real
> > world! They all do nothing but teach.
> >
> >
> >
> > CCNA in 6 months? If it takes someone 6 months to get a CCNA, they should
> > look into a different line of work.
> >
> >
> >
> > This was basically ONE BIG F*N INFOMMERCIAL!!!!  CRAP!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Narbik Kocharians
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:55 PM
> > To: L. Jankok
> > Cc: Brian McGahan; asequeira@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> > ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: IE Announcement
> >
> > unbelievable.....Unbelievable
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:59 PM, L. Jankok <ljankok@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Great, I am viewing :)
> > >
> > > 2008/10/30 Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > > The recording can be viewed here:
> > > > http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/p95047727/
> > > >
> > > > More info will be posted on the details of the updates soon.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> > > > bmcgahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com <
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> <
> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
> > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > L. Jankok wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am viewing Diego now, together with my 3 year old son :D
> > > >
> > > > 2008/10/30 Anthony Sequeira <asequeira@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <
> > > asequeira@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > >   So sorry you experienced a problem with your live viewing. We will
> be
> > > sure
> > > > to make the recording available to all very soon.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Warmest regards,
> > > >
> > > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> > > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > > > asequeira@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com <
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> <
> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> <
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > <
> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > >
> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "L. Jankok" <ljankok@xxxxxxxxx> <ljankok@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thu, October 30, 2008 12:55
> > > > Subject:Re: IE Announcement
> > > >
> > > > Well... I was in watching the presentation, than my screen went blank
> > so
> > > I
> > > > hitted F5 and got a page telling me that the meeting
> > > > is already in progress.. pretty dissapointing :(
> > > >
> > > > 2008/10/30 Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@xxxxxxxxx> <
> atlantaccie@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > >
> > > >       I was not able to login either. Says recording will be posted
> lol
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Mike Leske <
> mike.leske@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I already got a mail stating that two many registered for the event.
> > > > I have to wait un
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2008/10/30 Andrew Dempsey <apdccie@xxxxxxxxx> <apdccie@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > >         Pretty sure the news will hit this list within minutes
> anyway.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Ali Mousawi <mousawi.ali@xxxxxxxxx>
> <
> > > mousawi.ali@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > >  > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   it seems no place for non IE customers :(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Rick Mur <murserver@xxxxxx> <
> > > murserver@xxxxxx>
> > >  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Don't know if I break some NDA for it but:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/announcement/?launcher=false
> > > >
> > > >   log-in with your standard classroom account
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 30 okt 2008, at 18:46, Ali Mousawi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the announcment in 15 mins? I signed up but how will i join i
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > didnt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  get
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  any link?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > --
> > Narbik Kocharians
> > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> Narbik Kocharians
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> www.MicronicsTraining
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