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Re: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles posted 06/03/2008
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$80k-100k is kinda close to reality. That means most employers will pay $80k
without asking tons of questions? :-)

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Tony Varriale <tvarriale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Here we go again with the financial districts...
>
> There are plenty of thriving verts.
>
> Anyway, a newly minted CCIE with no experience is in the $80k-100k range.
> <5 years with GOOD hands-on is $120kish.  More experience and good
> experience is up and way up from there.
>
> If you are experienced and a company low-balls you, they are just looking
> for the CCIE credentials.  They probably don't need excellent design,
> troubleshooting, communication skills.  3560 rack-and-stackers will take
> those all day long.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 2:35 AM
> To: 'Roger'; ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> I was joking friend...
>
> So we do agree!
>
> I just finished a 28 hour marathon network overhaul and I'm home firing up
> dynamips. Don't let your skill set get weakened, even for a few hours to
> sleep.
>
> I was offered a whopping $112k a year for my Jedi skills in NYC just the
> other day... the economy is $@&ked! That was at a fortune 25 company!!!!
> There are like 1000's of CCIE's out of work... Citigroup, Bear Sterns,
> BofA,
> Wachovia, Merrill Lynch, Morgan, Hedge funds, these guys are bleeding cash
> and are dropping IT engineering staff like there's no tomorrow... lots of
> smart guys with no dojo looking for work right now...
>
> That's about $2800 every two weeks after taxes... that MIGHT fill up my gas
> tank, and put a few groceries in my house... LOL
>
> Guys, hit the books harder than ever if you want to swim through the next 3
> or 5 years...
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Roger
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:05 AM
> To: ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> Man I hate to disagree with Joseph (and I don't all that often)
>
> If you are brand new CCIE, and I see that you have less then 5 years exp
> in large-mid size networks I won't pay better then 110-125 (with bonus).
>
>
> I have seen about 3-7 CCIE's recent in about the high 18xxx's & 19xxx's
> they've been able to answer CCIE questions however their real world
> problem solving has made me offer them much less. Reason: if they do not
> have a wide breath of experience (2 of them never worked on Cat65XX)
> more time in training and supporting them will be required from team/me.
> We had one that said he had worked a lot of 6509's and was a nice guy so
> I took him to our server room as part of the interview and asked him
> about some of the gear as I pointed it out. He couldn't tell me which
> blade in the 6509 was the sup.
>
> HOWEVER if you are going to work for a cisco vendor (gold silver etc) or
> you have 6+ years, then Joseph is about right, well I hope he is =)
>
> Good Journey!
> Roger
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Sat, May 31, 2008 10:49 pm
> > To: "'R.S. CCIE'" <r.s.cciestudy@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Cisco certification'"
> > <ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > $140,000 with 20% bonus in writing.
> >
> > Anything less and I'll say lance Armstrong has more cajones than you, LA
> > cabronito Vato!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> R.S.
> > CCIE
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:04 AM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> >
> > What would be the minimum offer (as an employee) should a brand new CCIE
> > accept without hurting the CCIE prestige ? And this brand new CCIE only
> has
> > experience on 2600, 3800 routers.....etc. No experience on those BIG
> horses.
> >
> >
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