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RE: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos? posted 01/06/2008
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Those hotels in October 2007 were the same price they were in May 1997.
$58.88 per night LOL

They are not bad. There is a cool video game room in one, where I wasted
many Saturday afternoons.


I recommend going as cheap as possible- you never know if you may be coming
back for another visit.






From: EDL [mailto:r.s.cciestudy@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:44 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: Scott M Vermillion; certification Cisco
Subject: Re: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos?


Joe B,

Thanks for the saty recommendation. I have been searching for a place to
stay at this rate and distance. I have a lab date in early April. Hopefully
it would not be too late to reserve a room the last week of March. 


On Jan 6, 2008 12:02 AM, Joseph Brunner <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

All of the Brian's Labs are memorable. I worked through 16 the other day as
I prepare to teach the CCNP class next month. What I liked most about 19,
and 20 was their sheer difficulty and creativity. I knew I had to match my 
creativity to the Brians if I was going to have a chance.

The very first lab I did on rented racks was lab 13. Why 13? It's my
favorite number, and I wanted to jump around. I considered myself lab ready,

by virtue of my work, UNTIL I TRIED THIS LAB!!!

You're going to have to get creative with the DOC CD these last few weeks.
Don't travel the day before your lab, and don't eat any sugar/caffeine the 
day before your lab. Go to sleep at 8pm, you need to allow for a 3am wake up
you won't fall back to sleep from. 8-3 is plenty of sleep to be good at 9am
in SJ if that's where you're still going. I would recommend staying awake 
for 36 hours before you expect to fall asleep so you'll definitely fall
asleep at like 7pm and stay asleep until 7am.

If you want to save $$$ and have a good place to stay, stay on North 1st
street. There are two EZ8 motels, one more near Cisco than other. I lived in

both in 1997, it was quaint to see them there this last fall. The "northern
one" is at 2050 N 1st street (cross of brokow rd, 101 FWY to north 1st
street) is only a few minutes from "Champion" light rail station so you 
don't have to worry about driving and parking on your morning. Either way
visit the building before your day so you wont be nervous finding it.

May the force be with you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott M Vermillion [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 2:24 AM
To: 'Joseph Brunner'; 'certification Cisco' 
Subject: RE: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos?

Thanks Joe!  I was actually thinking of you when I referenced those "with
really good memories," as you seem to be able to speak of individual labs
meaningfully.  I couldn't tell you anything particular about any of the labs
I've done thus far!  They all blend in my tattered mind.

Funny you mention QoS and Security.  I not too distantly felt I knew QoS 
quite well but it seems I've lost some of my grasp.  Have been reading QoS
all day to revisit areas I've apparently lost touch with.  And security is
ever a soft spot in my underbelly as far as CCIE-level stuff goes (I'm no 
slouch with a wildcard mask, but the trickier stuff can still get my goat).

I also agree with you about the rented racks, honestly.  After all I spent
to put my home lab together, it's almost an insult to have to do that.  But 
you're right.  In my first-ever graded mock lab yesterday, I started off
very impressively by configuring all of my Rack13 IPs with "1".  Time lost.
Confidence down right out of the gate.  Second-guessing up.  Laughing at my 
dumb ass in retrospect already.  So I have already set up more mock labs and
rented more time. My training budget is in shreds at this late hour, but
this isn't too great an expense I suppose...



-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:15 AM
To: 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'certification Cisco' 
Subject: RE: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos?

You must do 13,14,19, and 20 on a full rented rack from IE. Period. Get more
used to the feel, setup and troubleshooting of the full sized switches.

Also zero in on your security and qos skills. Those are (TRUST ME) the few 
milliliters of O2 in your tank that will take you the last 200 feet to the
summit of Everest. I hear many stories of 100% on IGP and BGP but zip on
those sections, guess what that equals? (Another $1,400 plus travel next 

Remember; make decisions in the lab like you would your lab. Try it, see if
it works. But, don't over think anything!


-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Scott M Vermillion
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:06 AM
To: 'certification Cisco'
Subject: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos? 

Hi all,

I'm pretty heavily loaded up with mock/assessor labs, some final online
training, and review of IE/Narbik training materials (along with copious
notes in most cases) in these final few weeks of lab prep.  As some of you 
know, I run somewhat of a strange lab, with Dynamips for routers and
3560-8PCs for switches.  Since those switches only have nine ports each, I
have to do  some reverse and re-engineering of the L2 aspect of each and 
every lab I do.  It's actually an enjoyable challenge and I have found a way
to complete each and every one of the first 10 labs with full functionality
(oh, I may have to drop a three-port Etherchannel to two or even one here 
and there, but that's a pretty minor impact as far as big-picture lab
functionality goes).

Having said all of that, every hour spent tinkering is an hour of lab prep
lost.  Thus, I doubt seriously that I'll get through all 20 before I hop on 
that plane.  Over the course of time, I've seen posts from some of you with
really good memories regarding how lab so-and-so really brought something
home for you.  If you could only do say five of the final 10 labs, which 
would they be?  A few words as to why would be an appreciated bonus!

Cheers all,


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