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RE: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos? posted 01/06/2008
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Agreed Joseph - both philosophically and practically.  Philosophically
because you don't want to allow your high degree of familiarity with a given
topology become a crutch.  Practically because IE is doing an on-site
bootcamp for the next few weeks and, presumably, this is the reason that
none of their racks are available for rental until later in the month.  I am
doing both of the Cisco Assessors in the coming few weeks.  Considering my
options and evaluating my schedule outside of that.


From: Joseph Saad [mailto:joseph.samir.saad@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:41 AM
To: Scott M Vermillion
Cc: Joseph Brunner; certification Cisco
Subject: Re: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos?


Also, as someone advises, don't put all the eggs in one basket.

Attempt NMC, IPexpert, Cisco Assessor, and/or whatsoever ... we are overly
familiarized with a single topology which can easily catch us by surprise. 


On Jan 6, 2008 11:24 AM, Scott M Vermillion <scott@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Joe!  I was actually thinking of you when I referenced those "with
really good memories," as you seem to be able to speak of individual labs
meaningfully.  I couldn't tell you anything particular about any of the labs

I've done thus far!  They all blend in my tattered mind.

Funny you mention QoS and Security.  I not too distantly felt I knew QoS
quite well but it seems I've lost some of my grasp.  Have been reading QoS 
all day to revisit areas I've apparently lost touch with.  And security is
ever a soft spot in my underbelly as far as CCIE-level stuff goes (I'm no
slouch with a wildcard mask, but the trickier stuff can still get my goat). 

I also agree with you about the rented racks, honestly.  After all I spent
to put my home lab together, it's almost an insult to have to do that.  But
you're right.  In my first-ever graded mock lab yesterday, I started off 
very impressively by configuring all of my Rack13 IPs with "1".  Time lost.
Confidence down right out of the gate.  Second-guessing up.  Laughing at my
dumb ass in retrospect already.  So I have already set up more mock labs and

rented more time. My training budget is in shreds at this late hour, but
this isn't too great an expense I suppose...



-----Original Message----- 
From: Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:15 AM
To: 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'certification Cisco'
Subject: RE: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos? 

You must do 13,14,19, and 20 on a full rented rack from IE. Period. Get more
used to the feel, setup and troubleshooting of the full sized switches.

Also zero in on your security and qos skills. Those are (TRUST ME) the few 
milliliters of O2 in your tank that will take you the last 200 feet to the
summit of Everest. I hear many stories of 100% on IGP and BGP but zip on
those sections, guess what that equals? (Another $1,400 plus travel next 

Remember; make decisions in the lab like you would your lab. Try it, see if
it works. But, don't over think anything!


-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Scott M Vermillion
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:06 AM
To: 'certification Cisco'
Subject: IEWB Labs 10 - 20 -- Any Must-Dos? 

Hi all,

I'm pretty heavily loaded up with mock/assessor labs, some final online
training, and review of IE/Narbik training materials (along with copious 
notes in most cases) in these final few weeks of lab prep.  As some of you
know, I run somewhat of a strange lab, with Dynamips for routers and
3560-8PCs for switches.  Since those switches only have nine ports each, I 
have to do  some reverse and re-engineering of the L2 aspect of each and
every lab I do.  It's actually an enjoyable challenge and I have found a way
to complete each and every one of the first 10 labs with full functionality 
(oh, I may have to drop a three-port Etherchannel to two or even one here
and there, but that's a pretty minor impact as far as big-picture lab
functionality goes).

Having said all of that, every hour spent tinkering is an hour of lab prep 
lost.  Thus, I doubt seriously that I'll get through all 20 before I hop on
that plane.  Over the course of time, I've seen posts from some of you with
really good memories regarding how lab so-and-so really brought something 
home for you.  If you could only do say five of the final 10 labs, which
would they be?  A few words as to why would be an appreciated bonus!

Cheers all,


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