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Re: The PIX and RIP posted 10/14/2005
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Jim
I only have remote access to my rack to confirm 100% if the TTL is 1 or 2.
However even if it is two there would still be problems including breaking
the RFC for the multicast address allocated RIPv2  RFC1112:


The range of addresses between 224.0.0.0 and 224.0.0.255, inclusive,
is reserved for the use of routing protocols and other low-level
topology discovery or maintenance protocols, such as gateway discovery
and group membership reporting.  Multicast routers should not forward
any multicast datagram with destination addresses in this range,
regardless of its TTL.

Its a while since I have worked on pix but last time multicast support
was limited anyway. I would also advise BGP if you can get away
with it based on the topology you have.

Regards
Kevin


On 10/14/05, Feldman, Jim <Jim.Feldman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Thanks for thinking about this and getting back to me.
>
> Kevin,  I'm only 95% sure but I think that actually the TTL of RIP updates
> to the mcast address is 2, not 1.
>
> Brett, yes, there's a need for routes to be passed from 1 side of the PIX to
> another (DMZ1 to inside).
>
> If I use BGP which is a definate consideration, I'll need to redist rip into
> BGP on the DMZ1 side and redist from bgp into rip on the inside of the PIX.
>
> I think both methods would work but why do you say using the BGP method is
> better?
>
> TIA, Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brant I. Stevens [mailto:branto@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:59 PM
> To: 'kevin gannon'; 'Feldman, Jim'
> Cc: 'Ccie Lab (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: The PIX and RIP
>
>
> Is the requirement for dynamic rouuting?  If so, then BGP would be the best
> solution for something like this, provided that the routers on the inside
> and outside are capable of using it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> kevin gannon
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:34 PM
> To: Feldman, Jim
> Cc: Ccie Lab (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: The PIX and RIP
>
> Unless the PIX is in transparent mode the RIP will not get accross the PIX
> as the TTL of a RIP packet is 1.
>
> GRE is an option but then it will not be possible to inspect the traffic
> within the GRE as all traffic will go over the GRE.
>
> Regards
> Kevin
>
> On 10/14/05, Feldman, Jim <Jim.Feldman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I want 2 routers to pass rip updates to each other across a PIX firewall.
> > The Pix is configured to allow UDP port 520 traffic.
> >
> > I can think of 2 potential ways to do this:
> >
> > 1) Use the command, "no validate source-update" because the 2 routers
> > are on 2 different subnets.
> >
> > 2) Set up a gre tunnel across the pix between the 2 routers.
> >
> >
> > Am I correct that both ways will work?
> >
> > If so, is one way considered better?
> >
> > TIA, Jim
> >
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