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Re: CCIE Written posted 09/04/2003
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 not being pro or con on the issue
I felt the pull to add this soon after passing the written .... even
considered putting it in my resume.
most people whom have an extended sig provide more than ample contact info
in that  sig ,
soooo if cisco really had a problem with this
it wouldn't at all be hard to contact them with a cease and desist right ?
i'm sure the lawyers can handle themselves and we can get back to studying.


kurt
ccie written (expired)
ccnp ccsp cissp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Williams" <ccie2be@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Dennis'" <cc1e@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Tiffany Creighton'"
<Tiffany.Creighton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Written


> Funny you mention the rules, as I went back over Cisco's website looking
> for the rules.  Actually, until you finish the CCIE lab and get your
> number, you're not bound by the rules set forth on the CCIE Logo usage
> webpage which says (pertaining to text usage):
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Text References to the CCIE Program
> The name CCIE may be used in textual descriptions that make fair and
> accurate references to the program and to your certification status.
> Since it is a trademark, it should be used as an adjective and never as
> a noun. Examples of proper use include:
>
> Do say: "John Smith is certified under the CCIET program; CCIE No. 1234"
> or "John Smith, CCIET No. 1234"
>
> Do not say: "John Smith is a CCIE" or "XYZ company is CCIE certified"
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Since there is nothing specifically saying you *can't* use it, and you
> *can't* be bound by the CCIE Logo usage rules until you are a CCIE
> (technically speaking), does it break the rules to use it this way?
>
> I don't know.......... But to make sure I don't jeopardize my certs,
> I've e-mailed ccie@xxxxxxxxx and asked for an official clarification.  I
> will post as soon as I receive an answer.
>
> Mike W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Dennis
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:58 PM
> To: 'Tiffany Creighton'; ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: CCIE Written
>
>
> It's good to be proud of your accomplishments. It's also good to honor
> the rules as set forth by the company whos certification your pursuing
> and you take said pride in. There is a standard for using the letters as
> you choose to use them. And that standard is there is no such thing as a
> "CCIE Written" designation to be used in any correspondence, stationary,
> business card, email, etc. We don't make the rules... we just live by
> them.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Tiffany Creighton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:27 AM
> To: ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: CCIE Written
>
> Those of you disgruntled by my placing "CCIE Written" after my name have
> way too much time on your hands.  I am not using the CCIE Written to get
> a job, nor to trick people into thinking I've passed the lab exam.  I
> already have a job and am only focused on the certifications I'm
> pursuing.  I put it on there because I'm proud of it.  Passing the
> written was a great accomplishment and it constantly motivates me to
> succeed.  If someone were to cheat on a test or share answers and
> questions from the actual exam, they would be violating the Cisco
> agreements.  If I share with others that I've passed the written exam,
> I'm just telling people I've passed the CCIE written exam.  Find a
> better way to use your time.
>
>
>
> Tiffany Creighton
>
> CCIE Written,CCDP, CCNP, CCDA, CCNA, CNA
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