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Re: Blaster Worm Problem posted 09/02/2003
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I don't think Mike said it was a violation of the NDA, he said it was a
violation of Cisco's certification agreement. The CCIE written is not a
valid certification, it is just a written exam that qualifies you as being
competent enough to attempt the CCIE lab. It is more like a filter to save
both candidates and Cisco time and money from attempting an exam they are
clearly not qualified for. It is kind of like getting a driving permit at 15
1/2. You are qualified to begin practicing with a licensed driver for your
own driving exam. Listing the CCIE Written as a qualification is kind of
like listing BSCI certified, BCMSN certified, and BCRAN certified next to
your name. While it may show people you have enough knowledge to pass those
exams, you are not yet a CCNP, nor does Cisco recognize you as a CCNP, or
BSCI certified etc.

I somewhat agree that there is a difference is between a CCNP and a person
that has passed the CCIE written. I don't agree that it is worthwhile to
list next to your name. I think that this is why a lot of the job postings
regarding CCIEs now explicitly state: Looking for CCIE (that has passed lab
exam). These recruiters don't know the difference between someone who was
passed the CCIE written and someone who has passed the CCIE lab exam. A lot
of companies have probably got burned in the past from a recruiter who was
misled by someone that listed CCIE written on their resume and advertised
that person as a "CCIE" to the company. This is just my opinion, you can
list whatever you would like next to your name and there is nothing Cisco or
myself can do about it.

I do however agree that the CCIE written needs to be a requirement for
signing up for this list and that needs to be enforced in some way or
manner.

Just my .02,

Larry - the bestest Cisco engineer in the world. Or at least my mommie
thinks so.





----- Original Message -----
From: "phase90" <phase90@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Mike" <z0rand3r@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Blaster Worm Problem


> To Mike,
>
>                  #1.)  I don't believe putting ccie written is a violation
> of NDA. Even if it is,
>                          is it really worth litigating? This would be
thrown
> out of court by any judge with
>                          a penny's worth of common sense as a trivial
> lawsuit.
>
> Plus          #2.)   Nobody ever said "ccie written"  is/was a valid
> certification,
>
> Plus          #3.)   Tiffany isn't misrepresenting anything since, by
> definition of this list
>
>          everyone on it is supposed to have passed the ccie written. So
> please find something else worthwhile to worry about! Like 1 of the topics
> on the ccie lab exam for starters. Then move on.
>
>
> Jerry
> CCIE written [ obviously!  ]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <z0rand3r@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Blaster Worm Problem
>
>
> > Have you checked the Event Logs to see if there are any warning/stop
> errors
> > at the time period of the restart?  If you have not, check those and
> search
> > Microsoft's TechNet site (http://support.microsoft.com) for assistance
in
> > dealing with the errors (you will want to look through all three logs
and
> > find the FIRST error message and start your search from their).
> Personally,
> > I find Google is an excellent tool for searching for Event ID messages
on
> > Microsoft's site.  Enter your query as "Event ID # site:microsoft.com"
and
> > see if that helps.
> >
> > BTW - Placing "CCIE Written" in your certification listing portion of
your
> > signature is a violation of the Certifications Agreement that you signed
> > with Cisco, as it is not a valid Certification per Cisco.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tiffany Creighton" <Tiffany.Creighton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:01 AM
> > Subject: Blaster Worm Problem
> >
> >
> > > I know someone who was infected with the Blaster worm.  I removed the
> > > worm from his computer and updated his Windows 2000 operating system
> > > with all of the latest patches and updates from Microsoft.
> > > Unfortunately, his computer will still restart itself unexpectedly.
The
> > > worm is no longer there.  What could be causing the restarting?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tiffany Creighton
> > >
> > > CCIE Written,CCDP, CCNP, CCDA, CCNA, CNA
> > >
> > > Vital Support Systems
> > >
> > > Systems Engineer
> > >
> > > 515.334.5737 Direct
> > >
> > > 515.334.5757 Fax
> > >
> > > 515.710.5456 Mobile
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