Way to go Chuck! Perserverance pays off!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Church" <cchurch@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ccielab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <cisco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!
> I think the title says it all. Took the lab today at RTP. 4th time
> was the charm. I don't know where to begin. Might as well start with the
> thank you's. Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass. Thanks
> to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
> the past with problems. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
> together. As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
> Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
> and MS Certs. After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
> in October 2000. Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
> for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP. Didn't know much more
> than your average CCNP would. Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
> again I didn't make it to day 2. After that, I found a study partner
> (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer. Did all the
> labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
> November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab. I don't
> know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
> format had a very low pass rate. I know I could have used a couple more
> hours to finish. If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
> failed, don't be discouraged. I think they've scaled it back a little
> Fast forwarding to today. After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
> and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
> felt pretty prepared. Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
> made sense. Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
> Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch. At that point I was done
> with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's. In other words about 2/3
> the way done, by my estimate. At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
> work on 3 things I couldn't figure out. A little discussing with the
> proctor, and 2 of them were fixed. But then I think I read too much. I
> solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
> change what they were looking for. Checking with the proctor, I got the
> impression that he really didn't like my solution. So there I am, 1.5
> to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :( Looked OK, but with 1/2
> hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o 10 minutes
> to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
> check all my other work as time expired. I know I left 1 thing
> (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes. They
> to expect the results tomorrow afternoon. A plane flight back to New
> and there's the email waiting. 8776!
> If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:
> Groupstudy! Paul's done a great job. There are certain people on this
> that should be flagged as must-reads. I won't mention any last names, but
> there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
> asset to this list. Thanks guys.
> Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
> were afraid to ask.
> Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
> - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon. This book covers
> most everything. I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
> QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet. But still the most useful book I've
> Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
> that book.
> Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
> cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't! Great preparation
> and simulation for the test.
> Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!
> Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/ Bruce and Val
> explain the most difficult subjects very well. A couple of things are a
> little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
> prepared to work your a** off that week though. 8:30AM to 11PM is the
> that week. But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
> passing before.
> Well, sorry to ramble on so much. I'm off to bed for a L O N G
> Thanks again,
> Chuck Church
> CCIE 8776
> CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Magnacom Technologies
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